The Data Diva Talks Privacy Podcast

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks Data Privacy with industry leaders around the world about issues businesses need to know now.

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— Dr. Nicol Turner Lee Senior Fellow and Director of the Center for Technology Innovation at the Brookings Institution, and the founder of the AI Equity Lab

"The Data Diva" Talks Privacy Podcast reaches listeners in over 121 countries with over 480,000+ downloads!

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"The Data Diva" Talks Privacy Podcast reaches listeners in over 121 countries with over 480,000+ downloads! 〰️

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E195 - The Honorable Judge John M. Facciola, Federal Magistrate Judge for the United States District Court for the District of Columbia

Debbie Reynolds, "The Data Diva" talks to The Honorable Judge John M. Facciola, Federal Magistrate Judge for the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. We discuss Judge Facciola's extensive career and his pivotal role in shaping the intersection of technology and the law, particularly in eDiscovery and digital evidence.

Judge Facciola shares his unique journey, which began with his appointment as a judge in 1997 and an early case highlighting digital data's complexities in legal proceedings. This case, involving backup tapes from the Department of Justice, led him to pioneer the concept of proportionality in eDiscovery, utilizing principles from economics to balance the benefits and burdens of data production. His innovative thinking in this area garnered attention from the Sedona Conference, a significant milestone in his career.

The discussion also explores the evolution of technology in legal practice, from the early days of digital data management to the challenges posed by artificial intelligence and deepfakes. Judge Facciola emphasizes the importance of integrating advanced tools like continuous active learning to reduce the costs of eDiscovery, thereby improving access to justice. He shares his concerns about the high expenses associated with digital discovery, which can be prohibitive for many litigants, and highlights ongoing efforts to address these issues through technological advancements.

Judge Facciola and Debbie Reynolds also touch on the critical issue of data privacy in legal contexts. They discuss how privacy considerations are becoming increasingly relevant in discovery processes and the impact of regulations on corporate practices regarding employee data. The conversation underscores the need for balanced approaches to data management that respect privacy while fulfilling legal obligations.

Towards the end of the episode, Judge Facciola reflects on the broader implications of technological advancements on access to justice, particularly for those who may be priced out of the legal system. He advocates for innovative solutions to make legal processes more affordable and accessible, including AI's ability to handle simpler legal tasks without requiring extensive human intervention.

This episode offers a deep dive into the complexities of data privacy, legal technology, and the ongoing efforts to ensure that justice is accessible to all in the digital age. Judge Facciola's insights provide valuable perspectives on the challenges and opportunities at the intersection of law and technology, making this a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of legal practice and he shares his hope for Data Privacy in the future.

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E194 - Rex M Lee, Tech Journalist, Security Advisor, My Smart Privacy

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Rex M Lee, Tech Journalist, Security Advisor, My Smart Privacy. We discuss his career in the cellular phone industry, detailing his involvement in developing Houdini Soft, a platform that allowed unlocking and reprovisioning of devices. He discusses the legal battles and controversies surrounding the platform, emphasizing its role in empowering consumers to have control over their devices. Additionally, he connects the platform's relevance to cybersecurity and its impact on the industry's landscape, shedding light on the challenges and the consumer rights upheld in the 2009 Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) ruling. Furthermore, he delves into the broader implications of surveillance capitalism and data mining in the tech industry, highlighting the role of operating systems in supporting these technologies.

Rex Lee delves into the historical progression of operating systems, tracing the shift from iPods to smartphones and the implications for user surveillance. He emphasized the role of pre-installed apps in data collection and the subsequent adoption of a targeted advertising business model rooted in surveillance capitalism by major companies like Google, Apple, and Microsoft. Furthermore, he illustrates how these companies control global access to Internet trade and commerce, leading to centralization. Debbie Reynolds contributes to the discussion by highlighting the data collection capabilities of unused apps on phones, underscoring the far-reaching impact of surveillance practices. Rex Lee passionately discusses the exploitation of privacy, security, and civil liberties in the digital age, emphasizing the need for an electronic bill of rights to address these concerns. He advocated for individuals to have control over their personal information and opposed surveillance capitalism business practices, calling for the abolition of contracts of adhesion. Debbie Reynolds agrees with Lee's perspectives and appreciates the insights shared, acknowledging the importance of the discussion on privacy and security in the digital era. The conversation also touched on their professional backgrounds and, a mutual appreciation for each other's work, and his wish for privacy in the future.

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E193 - Nneka J. McGee, Ed.D., J.D. Former Chief Academic Officer San Benito Consolidated Independent School District (CISD) Texas, Artificial Intelligence (AI) in Education Researcher and Advocate

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Nneka J. McGee, Ed.D., J.D. Former Chief Academic Officer San Benito Consolidated Independent School District (CISD) Texas, Artificial Intelligence (AI) in Education Researcher and Advocate. We discuss the critical topics of artificial intelligence (AI) and privacy in education. Nneka McGee shares her career journey influenced by her parents, both mathematicians educated in the Jim Crow South. Her path took her from teaching mathematics to a deep dive into the potential and challenges of AI in education. The conversation opens with the importance of protecting the privacy of young students, particularly those under 13. Nneka stresses the importance of educational institutions and parents being vigilant about terms of service and data-sharing agreements to safeguard children’s privacy.

The discussion then explores AI's role in education, highlighting the fourth industrial age driven by AI and automation and its impact on teaching and learning. Nneka elaborates on the complexities of digital contracts, touching on various regulations like FERPA and COPPA in the US, and GDPR in Europe, that schools must navigate. She shares insights into the broader implications of data breaches and privacy violations, emphasizing schools' need to precisely understand and negotiate terms to protect all stakeholders.

AI’s transformative potential versus its risks is a significant theme if not appropriately managed. Nneka expresses her wish for a balanced approach to AI in education, advocating for decision-making that includes diverse perspectives, especially from educators. She underscores the importance of teaching students technological skills, critical thinking, and agility to prepare them for future advances, such as quantum computing, and hope for Data Privacy in the future.

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E192 - Michael Roche, Founder, Executive Partner, and General Manager, Fintechnology Group (Authentication, AI, Fintech, Fraud)

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Michael Roche, Founder, Executive Partner, and General Manager, Fintechnology Group (Authentication, AI, Fintech, Fraud). We discuss his authentication, AI, fintech, and fraud prevention expertise. Throughout the podcast, Michael emphasizes the significant role of artificial intelligence in enhancing fraud detection systems in financial services, drawing parallels to data structures seen in healthcare.

Michael shares insights from his ongoing Executive MBA at MIT, focusing on AI's burgeoning impact on media and its pivotal role in fraud prevention. He narrates the origin and evolution of Finn Technology Group from a cloud consultancy for banks to its expansion into developing sophisticated financial technology solutions. The conversation shifts towards AI's current and potential applications in banking, particularly in improving mobile banking security and fraud detection through advanced machine learning techniques.

Privacy concerns linked to mobile and digital banking, the regulatory landscape in the EU compared to the US, and the implications of GDPR are thoroughly discussed. Michael and Debbie also explore the challenges and risks associated with data breaches and the increasing sophistication of AI-powered fraud schemes.

The podcast concludes with Michael's thoughts on AI in banking, emphasizing the need for robust security frameworks to combat the dual-use nature of AI in fraud and security. We ponder the societal impacts of AI, reflecting on cinematic portrayals of technology and its ethical dimensions, underscoring the need for continued vigilance and innovation in the face of evolving digital threats and Michael shares his hope for Data Privacy in the future.

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E191 - Kashta Graham, Chief Executive Officer, We Manage Trust (Jamaica)

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Kashta Graham, Chief Executive Officer of We Manage Trust (Jamaica). We discuss the importance of data privacy and protection, emphasizing the need for ongoing monitoring and evaluation in data governance. We also highlight the challenges small and medium-sized businesses face in managing data protection and privacy, proposing outsourcing data protection officer services. The conversation delves into the challenges posed by the rapid evolution of AI on data privacy and protection, emphasizing the need for businesses to adapt to changing laws and regulations.

The discussion focused on the nuances of data protection assessments and regulations in different jurisdictions, particularly focusing on the EU, Jamaica, China, and the UAE. We explore the varying levels of enforcement and the potential compliance gap for data controllers in Jamaica conducting business with the EU. Additionally, we highlight the enforcement muscle of certain jurisdictions, such as China and the UAE, in contrast to the yet-to-be-seen enforcement in Jamaica. The episode emphasizes the need for a culture shift, educating prospective clients about the commitment required for data protection programs, and the importance of prioritizing human behavior and education in shaping a world where privacy and data protection are upheld as fundamental principles. And Kashta’s hope for Data Privacy in the future.

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E190 - Stéphane Hamel, Strategy, Privacy, Ethics, AI and the Future of Digital Marketing & Analytics (Canada)

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Stéphane Hamel, a Leader in Strategy, Privacy, Ethics, AI, and the Future of Digital Marketing & Analytics (Canada). We discuss Stéphane’s career journey and the evolution of privacy in data analytics, emphasizing the industry's shift towards more rigorous processes and privacy considerations. Debbie expressed her agreement with the significance of privacy in building customer trust and the potential impact on business bottom lines.

Stéphane strongly advocates for privacy by design and default, emphasizing the need for transparency and customer consent in marketing over exploiting legal loopholes. He highlights the ethical aspects of data collection and the importance of respecting customer preferences. The discussion also covers the complexities of global privacy regulations, the need for a unified ethical approach to privacy standards worldwide, and a fundamental data strategy to ease compliance with diverse laws. We underscore the importance of considering privacy as a core company value and investment, not merely a cost or regulatory compliance issue. Stéphane discusses the increased risks of data breaches and privacy challenges with first-party data collection and dispels myths about the minimal impact of eliminating third-party cookies on consumers. We explore the ethical challenges in marketing, focusing on privacy and data protection.

The episode highlights the importance of prioritizing privacy and ethical considerations in data-driven practices. The speakers emphasized the need for a consistent ethical approach to privacy standards globally and advocated for a fundamental data strategy to simplify compliance with various laws. They stressed the importance of making privacy a core value and investment for companies rather than viewing it as an expense or a regulatory burden. The discussion also underscored the significance of handling small data with trust and control, emphasizing its value over indiscriminate collection and storage of big data and his hope for data privacy in the future.

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E189 - Cindy Warner, Founder, CEO, 360ofme

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Cindy Warner, Founder and CEO of 360ofme. We discuss the evolving landscape of data privacy and the importance of ethical data usage. Cindy shares her unconventional journey from aspiring to a medical career to becoming a tech industry leader. She recounts her work with ERP solutions and her pivotal experience at Salesforce, highlighting data's power in driving insights for organizations.

The conversation delves into the evolution of 360ofme, emphasizing the shift towards consumer consent and privacy in marketing. We discuss the need to reawaken ethical practices in data usage, highlighting the challenges in building a trusted AI corpus, ensuring data is bias-free, and the high costs associated with data preparation and testing. Cindy explains the significance of verified identity, consent, and context in data sharing and how 360ofme makes revoking consent easier than traditional platforms.

The episode introduces Privacy Policy Co-Pilot and Enterprise Privacy Pulse, tools designed to assess an enterprise's privacy maturity and compliance. Cindy talks about companies releasing products without considering data privacy and the ethical implications of such actions. We also raise concerns about data security and storage, discussing the vulnerabilities of retaining extensive image data and the impracticality of such practices.

The discussion highlights the need for a human-centric approach in technology, the role of regulators, and the impact of prioritizing profit over ethical considerations. The episode also covers the effectiveness of the Biometric Information Privacy Act, citing Facebook's $650 million settlement, and addresses concerns about biometric data usage in public spaces. Overall, the episode emphasizes the importance of privacy by design and ethical considerations in product development, aiming for a more responsible and consumer-trust-focused technology industry and Cindy’s hope for Data Privacy in the future.

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E188 - Arielle Garcia, Founder, ASG Solutions, Privacy and Data Ethics, Responsible Media & Tech

In episode 188 of “The Data Diva” Talks Privacy Podcast, Debbie Reynolds talks to Arielle Garcia, Founder of ASG Solutions, Privacy, about Data Ethics, Responsible Media & Tech. We discuss Arielle’s journey from law school to becoming the founder of ASG Solutions, specializing in privacy and data ethics. We explore the brokenness of the advertising industry's incentive system and the challenges it presents, highlighting the impact on data practices and effective marketing. We also discuss the ethical implications of utilizing AI and voice recorders for medical transcription, expressing concerns about the marketing industry's lack of accountability and responsible use of data. We emphasize the need for consent and legitimate purposes for data usage, highlighting the broader issues within the chain of events that often lead to the misuse of data. The conversation delved into the complexities of balancing competition and privacy, expressing concerns about using sensitive data in advertising and the challenges of enforcement. The discussion also addresses the implications of AI on privacy, expressing concerns about the lack of transparency and accountability in big companies and ad tech. We explore the challenges and potential negative outcomes associated with Google's Privacy Sandbox and Performance Max products, emphasizing the conditioning of marketers to relinquish control and transparency. Additionally, we discuss privacy and technology in the femtech industry, addressing the implications of data collection and the need for stringent safeguards to protect sensitive information. They advocated for banning the surveillance advertising business model, citing its detrimental impact on human rights, civil rights, democracy, and her hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Many thanks to the Data Diva Talks Privacy Podcast Privacy Visionary, Smartbox AI, for sponsoring this episode and supporting our podcast. Smartbox.ai, named British AI Company of the Year, provides cutting-edge AI, helps privacy and technology experts uniquely master their Data Request challenges, and makes it easier to comply with Global data protection requirements, FOIA requests, and various US state privacy regulations. Their technology is a game-changer for anyone needing to sift through complex data, find data, and redact sensitive information. With clients across North America and Europe and a major partnership with Xerox, Smartbox.ai is bringing their data expertise right to our doorstep, offering insights into navigating the complex world of global data laws For more information about Smartbox AI, visit their website at https://www.smartbox.ai. Enjoy the show.

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E187 - Becky Gaylord, Head of Client Projects, Risk and Security, Gaylord Consulting

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Becky Gaylord, Head of Client Projects, Risk and Security, Gaylord Consulting. We discuss various aspects of data privacy and cybersecurity in a podcast episode, including car vulnerabilities and privacy concerns. Becky shares her career trajectory and emphasizes the relevance of her journalism background in blending consulting and communications with technology.

We discuss the importance of strategic communications in handling data breaches and the challenges consumers face in understanding and protecting their data. We advocate for better security standards and industry-led solutions, highlighting the need to categorize and protect sensitive consumer data. The conversation also touches on the concerns about collecting and using data without consent, particularly in public spaces and by law enforcement. We stress the importance of regulation and education to address these issues and emphasize that basic steps can be taken to protect personal information without requiring advanced technical knowledge. We highlight the tactics used by scammers, such as creating urgency and fear to manipulate victims, and stress the importance of pausing to break free from the emotional manipulation. Additionally, we discuss the difficulty in recognizing fear, urgency, and doubt during a scam and the need to overcome social constructs that make individuals vulnerable to manipulation.

Debbie Reynolds and Becky Gaylord delve into the complexities of addressing privacy and cybersecurity concerns within organizations. We stress the importance of open communication and greater awareness to combat cyber threats while expressing the desire for privacy to be respected and for individuals to have more control over their personal information. The potential impact of privacy breaches on companies' bottom lines and the need for a shift in mindset to prioritize privacy and cybersecurity are highlighted. We also discuss the importance of effective communication and brand building, highlighting the need for women to support and uplift each other professionally and Becky’s hope for Data Privacy in the future.

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E186 -Timothy Nobles, Chief Commercial Officer at Integral

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Timothy Nobles, Chief Commercial Officer at Integral. We discuss the intersection of AI and healthcare, with a particular emphasis on data privacy and compliance. Timothy Nobles discusses the intricacies of data de-identification and the challenges posed by HIPAA regulations in the US healthcare system. We explore the methodologies of expert determination and safe harbor for preventing re-identification of data, and the limitations of publicly accessible data in certain scenarios. We discuss the importance of retaining data fidelity while protecting privacy and the need for active responsibility in data usage and consent. The conversation also touched on the increasing demand for de-identifying data sets and the influence of GDPR on personal data rights. Timothy Nobles highlighted the challenges posed by state-specific regulations in the US, particularly regarding de-identification standards, and anticipated a shift towards broader definitions of de-identification. We also explored the ethical considerations of data rights and privacy in utilizing AI technology, emphasizing the need for a balanced understanding of its potential impact. Finally, we discuss data compliance challenges and the need for a business case to facilitate data sharing. We emphasize the significance of a chain of custody and data providence in Integral’s solution, aiming to alleviate the complexities and liabilities associated with compliance. We also highlight the lack of in-house expertise for handling these tasks, underscoring the value of external support in navigating data compliance challenges and his hope for Data Privacy in the future.

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E185 - Debra Brookes, Former Deputy Virtual Currency Chief - Research and Innovation Division, New York State Department of Financial Services

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Debra Brookes, Former Deputy Virtual Currency Chief of the Research and Innovation Division, New York State Department of Financial Services. We discuss her career journey, which includes over 20 years of legal experience in enforcement and regulatory spaces, her transition to cryptocurrency regulation, and her involvement in investigating the Twitter hack. The conversation also touches on current concerns in the world related to virtual currency and cryptocurrency.

Brookes raises the alarm about the lack of comprehensive federal regulation in the cryptocurrency market, citing ongoing instances of corruption and fraud. She underscores the significance of New York's leadership in crypto regulation but points out the inherent limitations of state-specific laws, which allow companies to exploit regulatory gaps by operating across state borders. We discuss the concept of anonymity in cryptocurrency transactions, reflecting on the original vision of blockchain technology and its evolution towards increased transparency. We also explore the potential of digital wallets and the use of biometric data for security, expressing reservations about their reliability and potential vulnerabilities. We delve into the accessibility and safety aspects of virtual currency transactions, particularly for individuals unfamiliar with cryptocurrency. We also discuss the challenges faced by the unbanked population and the potential use of cell phones for virtual currency transactions, emphasizing the role of digital wallets in identity verification. Additionally, we touch on the risks associated with keeping significant amounts of cash at home and the potential for virtual currencies to provide a safer alternative. Debra underscores the importance of establishing robust regulatory frameworks and building trust in technology to mitigate the risks associated with data privacy and technological advancements.

We discuss the necessity of comprehensive data privacy laws to safeguard citizens, particularly young children, from online threats. Debra shares a harrowing example of a teenager who fatally overdosed on a drug purchased through a social media platform, underscoring the urgency of regulating technology to prevent such tragedies. We also emphasize the need for laws that respect innovation while prioritizing consumer protection, drawing from their experiences in the financial sector. Our conversation highlights the complex balance between fostering technological advancement and mitigating risks to protect consumers in an evolving digital landscape and Debra’s hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Many thanks to the Data Diva Talks Privacy Podcast Privacy Visionary, Smartbox AI, for sponsoring this episode and supporting our podcast. Smartbox.ai, named British AI Company of the Year, provides cutting-edge AI, helps privacy and technology experts uniquely master their Data Request challenges, and makes it easier to comply with Global data protection requirements, FOIA requests, and various US state privacy regulations. Their technology is a game-changer for anyone needing to sift through complex data, find data, and redact sensitive information. With clients across North America and Europe and a major partnership with Xerox, Smartbox.ai is bringing their data expertise right to our doorstep, offering insights into navigating the complex world of global data laws For more information about Smartbox AI, visit their website at https://www.smartbox.ai. Enjoy the show.

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E184 - Sharon Bauer, Founder of Bamboo Data Consulting

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Sharon Bauer, Founder of Bamboo Data Consulting in Canada. We discuss the complexities of the privacy landscape in Canada, including the outdated federal privacy legislation PIPEDA and the challenges posed by new technology. We emphasize the importance of staying informed and proactively addressing potential legislative developments while acknowledging the nuances and complexities of advising clients in the evolving legal landscape. We also discuss the evolving landscape of privacy in the digital age, highlighting the disconnect between privacy professionals' perspectives and consumer behavior. Sharon emphasizes the critical role of trust in driving consumer action, loyalty, and data collection for companies, stressing the need for companies to prioritize building trust with consumers. We explore the challenges companies face in comprehending and adhering to privacy regulations, including the lack of education and transparency, particularly among medium-sized businesses. We also discuss the multifaceted issues surrounding privacy and data protection, including the implications of data misuse, the need for informed consent, and the long-term consequences of data disclosure. We express frustration with the limitations of automated privacy assessment tools and emphasized the need for tools to consider businesses' diverse operational and ethical contexts. Sharon shares her frustration with the operationalization of privacy and stressed the importance of humanizing the process. We also discuss the importance of using real-life examples to educate companies about privacy missteps and Sharon’s hope for Data Privacy in the future.

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E183 - Debesh Choudhury, Ph.D., Information Security Researcher (India)

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Debesh Choudhury, PhD, Information Security Researcher (India). We discuss the application of image recognition for security, with both expressing concerns about the accuracy and sensitivity of the technique, particularly in matching images and creating databases of individuals. We also highlight the potential vulnerabilities in image security, emphasizing the need for complex hashes and the development of quantum-proof techniques. Additionally, the conversation touches on the limitations of voice recognition as a biometric factor for authentication, focusing on the ease of spoofing and the necessity of multiple factors in security measures. Debbie expresses deep concern about the rapid advancement and potential dangers of deepfake technology, citing a news story about a significant financial loss resulting from a deepfake video call. Debesh emphasizes the need for research to detect deepfakes and discusses the multifaceted impact of deepfake technology, including its potential positive applications in entertainment and the movie industry, as well as its negative implications in political scenarios and personal lives. The discussion also touches on the pressure for companies to adopt AI and the potential risks associated with overreliance on artificial intelligence, drawing parallels to historical industry shifts such as the adoption of Linux by Microsoft. Debesh raises concerns about the widespread adoption of biometrics and its potential threats to privacy, citing examples of government orders and the impact of the pandemic. We discuss the negative impact of such technologies on individuals and advocated for their rights. We discuss the need for logical thinking and education in the context of introducing AI and robotics courses in high schools, emphasizing the importance of nurturing critical thinking skills in students and his wish for the future of Data Privacy.

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E182 - Derek Wood and Debbie Reynolds E182 - Derek Wood, Senior Director Product Marketing, Duality Technologies

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Derek Wood, Senior Director of Product Marketing at Duality Technologies. We discuss the challenges of data privacy and the balance between using data for business purposes while respecting individuals' rights. We stress the importance of managing data in a way that doesn't hinder business operations but also upholds privacy standards. We explore the evolving landscape of privacy and security, emphasizing the regulatory push for privacy-enhancing technology and the convergence of privacy, security, and governance within organizations. The conversation also focused on developing a workflow that addresses these challenges, providing a solution that allows effective protection of both the model and input data, presenting a significant opportunity for growth in the current landscape. We discuss the potential risks associated with Generative AI and voice spoofing. We emphasize the need for increased awareness and potential solutions to address the risks posed by generative AI and voice spoofing.

Additionally, we explore the complexities of tracking data from its origin to various copies and usages, highlighting the difficulties in maintaining documented data lineage. The conversation underscored the need for organizations to adopt privacy-enhancing technologies to ensure data transparency and security. We discuss the shifting landscape of data sharing, its implications for third-party relationships, and the challenges third-party companies face in meeting increasingly stringent data security requirements, which can potentially hinder their ability to collaborate with first-party data companies. The discussion emphasizes the need for innovative solutions to alleviate risk for both parties and facilitate smoother data-sharing processes. Additionally, we underscore the role of technology solutions in enabling efficient and secure data management to meet the demands of the evolving business environment, and his hope for Data Privacy in the future.

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E181 - Dan Caprio, Co-Founder and Chairman of The Providence Group, Vice Chair, Internet of Things Advisory Board, U.S. Department of Commerce

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Dan Caprio, Co-Founder and Chairman of The Providence Group, Vice Chair, Internet of Things Advisory Board, U.S. Department of Commerce. We discuss and navigate the intricacies of privacy in the digital age, particularly focusing on the Internet of Things (IoT) and Artificial Intelligence (AI). The discussion emphasizes the urgent need for a national strategy for IoT, comprehensive federal privacy laws in the United States, and the significance of the cyber trust mark initiative led by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to signify the security and privacy standards of IoT devices, enhancing consumer trust. A pivotal point of the conversation was the importance of implementing a universal opt-out mechanism for IoT devices, offering users more control over their personal data. The episode also explored the dual-edged sword of AI in privacy, highlighting the Biden administration's executive order on AI as a step towards recognizing privacy's critical role in AI governance. Dan Caprio urged privacy professionals to adopt a strategic and proactive stance towards AI governance, emphasizing the dynamic career opportunities in the field and the necessity for ongoing education and adaptation in the face of evolving privacy challenges. This episode offered a rich overview of the current privacy landscape, stressing strategic foresight and proactive governance of emerging technologies as key to navigating the complexities of the digital age while safeguarding consumer privacy and Dan’s hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Many thanks to “The Data Diva” Talks Privacy Podcast “Privacy Champion” MineOS, for sponsoring this episode and supporting the podcast.

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E180 - Jesse Tayler, Team Builder, Startup Cofounder App Store Inventor, and Founder of TruAnon

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Jesse Tayler, Team Builder, Startup Cofounder App Store Inventor, and Founder of TruAnon. We discuss Data Privacy, Digital Identity, and Jesse Tayler's background as a team builder, startup co-founder, app store inventor, and founder of TruAnon. We discuss the shift from physical to digital products, highlighting the friction-free nature of the digital world and its implications for the economy. Jesse shares stories about creating the app store software model and meeting with Steve Jobs. The conversation then shifts towards the intricacies of digital identity and data security, drawing attention to the challenges posed by the transition to a purely digital environment and its impact on privacy and security. Jesse Tayler emphasizes the need for a service that banks and social networks want to use to ensure online safety. He discusses the importance of individuals owning and controlling their identity while also providing value to the services they use. Debbie Reynolds expresses concerns about the sustainability of the current verification processes and advocated for a system where individuals have more control over sharing their data rather than having to provide their identity information to multiple accounts.

Jesse Tayler passionately advocates for a purely digital solution to address the challenges of digital identity and privacy violations. He emphasizes the need for a future where digital identity is seamlessly integrated into everyday life, ensuring safety and trust for individuals and governance. Tayler expresses concerns about the lack of trust in the digital realm and the challenges of transmogrifying between the physical and digital worlds. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for a digital solution prioritizing trust, ownership, and transparency in identity verification, and Jesse shares his hope for Data Privacy in the future.

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E179 - Vikram Venkatasubramanian, Founder and CEO  Nandi Security, Inc

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Vikram Venkatasubramanian, Founder and CEO Nandi Security, Inc, Privacy Rights Advocate, and Smart Home Defender. We discuss Vikram’s career journey, sharing his experiences in the telecom industry, his decision to pursue an MBA, and the challenges of starting a company during an economic downturn. He discussed the transition into cybersecurity and his work with enterprise cybersecurity companies, highlighting the serendipitous events that shaped his career path and allowed him to collaborate with top cybersecurity professionals. Vikram also delved into commercializing personal data, underscoring its role in shaping consumer behavior and driving the valuation of companies.

We explore the need to raise awareness about potential dangers in data usage, particularly in the context of new technologies like smartphones and smart homes. We discuss the concept of prime vulnerability moments and how marketers exploit these moments using collected data, citing examples of data exploitation in influencing insurance rates and manipulating prices for flights, rental cars, and hotels. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding and minimizing risks associated with data exploitation by companies and the challenges in conveying the concept of risk reduction to consumers.

We discuss the development of the IEEE Cyber Security For Next Generation Connectivity Systems, Human Centricity (Data Control And Data Flow In Context Of A Person) on which they both chair, and their work on the Data Control Impact Assessment Questionnaire and a data privacy label for connected systems, emphasizing the need for a multi-dimensional approach and human-centricity. They aim to provide end consumers with a clear and easily interpretable snapshot of privacy and security risks, addressing gaps in existing privacy labels and avoiding duplication of work by other organizations. The group seeks to enable standardization groups to adopt and integrate their work into standards, focusing on broad data coverage. Additionally, they encourage participation from individuals outside the privacy and security fields to provide diverse feedback and avoid replicating existing efforts, and Vikram shares his hope for Data Privacy in the future.

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E178 - Carey Lening, writer and author of The Chronicle Of The Constantly Curious and Debbie Reynolds

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Carey Lening, Privacy Professional, Writer, Chronicles of the Constantly Curious (Dublin). We discuss her journey into privacy, highlighting the significance of the GDPR and the shift in attitude towards data protection. The conversation also delved into the limitations of applying a property rights model to personal data, with Carey highlighting the challenges and nuances involved in understanding and regulating the use of personal data. Additionally, the discussion touched on the broader implications of data ownership and the varying interpretations of privacy rights. We emphasize the need to recognize the complexities of data protection laws and the conflicting nature of individual rights in a global context. We advocate for a shift from absolutist beliefs towards a more grounded and pragmatic perspective, acknowledging the inherent difficulties and trade-offs in addressing privacy concerns. The discussion underscored the importance of moving beyond idealistic notions and embracing a more nuanced understanding of privacy rights in practice. We discuss the impact of privacy regulations, focusing on the aftermath of the ruling against Google Analytics in Europe. We emphasize the need for pragmatism in compliance decisions and expressed concerns about the broad application of regulations to all companies without considering nuanced differences. The conversation also delved into the complexities of cookie laws, data sharing without consent, and Carey’s Data Privacy hopes for the future.

Many thanks to "The Data Diva" Talks Privacy Podcast Sponsor and Privacy Visionary, Smartbox AI, for sponsoring this episode and supporting our podcast. Smartbox.ai, named British AI Company of the Year, provides cutting-edge AI, helps privacy and technology experts uniquely master their Data Request challenges, and makes it easier to comply with Global data protection requirements, FOIA requests, and various US state privacy regulations. Their technology is a game-changer for anyone needing to sift through complex data, find data, and redact sensitive information. With clients across North America and Europe and a major partnership with Xerox, Smartbox.ai is bringing their data expertise right to our doorstep, offering insights into navigating the complex world of global data laws For more information about Smartbox AI, visit their website at https://www.smartbox.ai. Enjoy the show.

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E177 - Jay Averitt, Senior Privacy Product Manager/Privacy Engineer at Microsoft

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Jay Averitt, Senior Privacy Product Manager/Privacy Engineer at Microsoft. We discuss Jay’s career trajectory into privacy engineering highlighting his early fascination with technology and law, leading to a career as a software engineer and later as a software engineer and licensed attorney. We emphasized the importance of integrating privacy considerations at the foundational level of design rather than as a reactive measure and highlighted the need for organizations to provide clear and concise privacy information to empower consumers. We also stressed the significance of building trust with users through transparent privacy practices and a user-centric approach to privacy. He emphasized the need to consider privacy fundamentals such as data minimization and transparency, particularly when storing customer data and addressing biases in AI models. He also expressed concerns about privacy and data collection in apps, emphasizing the need for better privacy considerations and consumer education. Debbie Reynolds and Jay Averitt concluded the meeting with mutual appreciation, emphasizing the evolving nature of privacy engineering, the value of diverse skills in this area, and the need to learn from past mistakes and prioritize transparency, especially in the context of LLMs handling potentially confidential information and his hope for Data Privacy in the future.

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E176 - Gopal Padinjaruveetil, Vice President, Chief Information Security Officer, AAA The Auto Club Group

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Gopal Padinjaruveetil, Vice President, Chief Information Security Officer, AAA The Auto Club Group. Gopal discussed his thought leadership and career journey, his educational background in chemistry and law, his transition from operational technology to IT, and his eventual entry into cybersecurity. Debbie then transitioned the discussion to AI's influence on cybersecurity, seeking Gopal's insights. Gopal began to address AI's impact on cybersecurity, highlighting its significance in the evolving technological landscape. Gopal and Debbie engaged in a discussion about their perspectives on AI and its potential impact. Gopal expressed concerns about the potential for AI to enable harm and emphasized the need to consciously shape its impact, drawing parallels between the use of AI and the use of weapons. He highlighted the importance of managing AI to prevent negative consequences and stressed the need to address cyber safety, freedoms, and rights. Debbie contributed to the discussion by sharing an analogy that Gopal compares AI education to sex education, emphasizing the need to teach safe usage and shape behaviors for the benefit of society. Their conversation reflects a nuanced understanding of AI's complexities and the importance of addressing its potential impact. Gopal led a thought-provoking discussion on the evolving nature of privacy, particularly in the digital realm. He explored the paradox of willingly sharing data while expecting privacy, emphasizing the need to protect privacy in private spaces while acknowledging the lack of privacy in public spaces. Drawing on legal concepts, Gopal advocated for a balanced approach that protects privacy in private spaces while recognizing the role of governments in ensuring safety. The discussion prompted reflection on the trade-offs between privacy and security, ultimately highlighting the complexities of privacy in the modern age. Gopal and Debbie engaged in a heartfelt discussion about the significance of optimism and the challenges of upholding it in the face of adversity. They drew inspiration from historical figures like Martin Luther King and Gandhi, emphasizing the importance of pushing forward for positive changes and his hope for Data Privacy in the future.

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The Data Diva Talks Privacy Team Credits

Host – Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva,” Debbie Reynolds Consulting LLC

A Data Diva Media Production

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Producer and Research – MK Holmes - Data Diva Media

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