Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Melih Calikoglu, Data Privacy Expert and Lawyer (Turkey). We discuss a range of topics related to Data Privacy and Artificial Intelligence, including challenges faced by small and medium-sized businesses in complying with Data Privacy laws, the differences between Turkish and EU privacy laws, fines and penalties for non-compliance, and the need for alignment with the GDPR. He also delved into the complexities of AI and data ownership, highlighting the challenges of compensating human producers and determining who owns the intellectual property rights. We also discuss the profound impact of AI on society, including the democratization and marketization of AI, the ethical problems that arise from using AI to solve problems for consultees, and the changing nature of communication and socialization. We emphasize the need for careful consideration of the societal implications of AI as it becomes increasingly integrated into our daily lives. We also highlight the importance of continued discussion and innovation to find effective solutions to the challenges posed by AI and Data Privacy and his wish for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Joyce Hunter, Executive Director, ICIT (Institute for Critical Infrastructure Technology). We discuss an overview of the Institute for Critical Infrastructure Technology (ICIT), a non-profit think tank focused on Cybersecurity, National Security, and Critical Infrastructure with a people-focused mission. We discuss the importance of women and people of color in Cybersecurity and the need for a risk-based approach to Cybersecurity that involves various learning methods. Hunter shares her journey into the technology field and her work with women in the Cybersecurity industry. Hunter stresses the importance of understanding the differences and relationship between Cybersecurity and Data Privacy. They express their concerns about the vulnerability of healthcare and agriculture systems to cyber attacks and the potential harm that could be caused to individuals through the manipulation of medical devices and chemical compounds. We discuss the importance of Cybersecurity training for all employees, including executives who may have more access and be targeted by cybercriminals. Hunter shares a personal experience of a top-rated college being hacked after ignoring her advice on Cybersecurity. Finally, we discuss the critical role of technology in our lives and the need for greater awareness of its potential risks. We highlight the importance of standards and governance to regulate the use of technology and ensure ethical development, particularly in the field of AI. We also express their concerns about the potential consequences of our reliance on technology, such as supply chain interruptions and cyber attacks, and call for greater accountability and regulation to mitigate these risks and her wish for Data Privacy and Cybersecurity in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Nitin Singhal, VP of Engineering, SnapLogic. We discuss his extensive data journey, emphasizing the importance of responsible use of data and ensuring that it is not in the hands of the wrong bodies. We discuss the challenges and importance of data governance and Data Privacy in today's technology-driven world, including the need for a "healthy data lifestyle" and the importance of auditing data to uncover blind spots. Nitin also shares his insights on data governance and Data Privacy, highlighting the need for a realistic and data-driven model to ensure proper data classification and understanding. Debbie and Nitin also discuss companies' end-of-life data challenges due to Data Privacy regulations. Nitin explains that companies must consider legal retention, privacy contracts with customers, and customer requests for data deletion. He emphasizes the importance of having a single place and order of operations for retention and deletion strategy to ensure consistency and defensibility. We also discuss the importance of being aware of blind spots in data and taking steps to avoid them. Debbie and Nitin explore the complexities of defining good and bad data, highlighting the importance of trust, metadata quality, and understanding the risk presented by the data. We also discuss the importance of context in Data Privacy, emphasizing the need for technology to enforce the tight coupling of context and content to maintain privacy and security. Nitin suggests capturing the context of data at the lowest granularity to meet evolving obligations easily and cost-effectively and avoid having to recreate the wheel every time a new law comes out. Overall, the discussion highlights the importance of responsible and ethical use of data in organizations and his wish for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Sean Vargas-Barlow, Senior Global Privacy, Product, and AI Counsel. We discuss our passion for Data Privacy and the challenges of maintaining consumer trust and Data Privacy in the age of personalization and data sharing. We also discuss the importance of learning agility, self-learning, and networking with others in the field through organizations and projects. We emphasize the need to constantly hone one's skills and stay up-to-date with the latest developments in the field. The discussion also touched on the future of privacy careers, with Sean and Debbie noting that the field has grown significantly in recent years and that privacy professionals are increasingly being called upon to lead on issues such as AI governance. We emphasize the importance of understanding technology and working collaboratively across different departments within an organization and note that privacy professionals may need to act as translators between technical and non-technical stakeholders. Finally, Debbie and Sean discuss the challenges of cross-border data transfer flows and the need for a global framework to ensure responsible data handling. We mention the APAC framework and the need for a global framework. We also discuss the need for responsible AI regulation with fundamental principles and the concern that the train has left the station. Overall, we highlight the importance of privacy and data governance in today's world, the need for professionals to stay informed and adaptable in the face of changing regulations and technological innovations, and her wish for Data Privacy in the future.

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Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Moiz Baig, Cybersecurity Advisor, Nokia (Dubai, United Arab Emirates). We discuss our shared backgrounds in technology and Cybersecurity. We talk about the current state of 5G technology and its potential use cases in various industries, the challenges of monetizing 5G networks, and the potential for a killer use case to drive mass adoption of 5G technology. We also discuss the challenges and opportunities of IoT adoption in the 5G era, the importance of regulations, frameworks, and partnerships to ensure Data Privacy and Cybersecurity, and the need for Cybersecurity governance, Zero Trust, and employee training to manage the expanding threat landscape. The conversation also touched on the challenges of Cybersecurity in the age of advanced technology and Quantum Computing, the need for a fresh look at how Data Sovereignty is linked to governance, and the importance of compliance checks, baselines, and risk strategies to ensure a secure network. We also discuss the complexities of AI and its impact on Cybersecurity and Data Privacy, the need for ethical AI, and the challenges of enforcing regulations. We highlight the importance of responsible deployment of AI to ensure Data Privacy and Cybersecurity and the need for a human-centric approach to regulating AI. Finally, we discuss the importance of responsible use of technology and the potential harm of Data Privacy breaches. We suggest public-private partnerships, a technology-neutral framework, and strong collaboration to ensure safe and reliable use of technology, and he shares his wish for Data Privacy and Cybersecurity in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Dr. Valerie Lyons, Chief Operations Officer, BH Consulting and Author of “The Privacy Leader Compass”. We explore the connection between Environmental, Social, and Corporate governance (ESG) and privacy, discussing how privacy can contribute to the social element of ESG through initiatives like corporate social responsibility reports. We also discuss the structure and unique features of "The Privacy Leader Compass" book, which is a practical guide for building and leading privacy teams. The book uses the 7S model from McKenzie for organizational effectiveness to make the privacy team and program effective. Dr. Valerie Lyons highlights the significance of developing executive presence and soft skills for effective leadership. She shares her experience of learning to communicate effectively with senior executives and emphasizes the importance of brevity, bullet points, and knowing what senior executives are interested in. Debbie Reynolds and Dr. Valerie Lyons discuss the importance of understanding motivation and finding the key to change for the people they are communicating with. Dr. Valerie Lyons delves into the complex relationship between AI and personal data. She highlights the power of AI in detecting medical conditions through mouse movements but also expresses concern about the invasive nature of AI inference and the lack of transparency in the process. Lyons emphasizes the need for ethical considerations and prudence in utilizing AI while acknowledging its potential for progress. Overall, she raises important questions about the implications of AI inference on privacy and personal autonomy and shares her wish for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Kar Wong, Founder and Chief Consulting Officer at Young Technology Consulting (Singapore). We discuss privacy laws in Asia, including the history of data protection laws in Singapore, Malaysia, and the Philippines. We also compared data protection laws in Asia to those in Europe and the US, noting that while there are some differences, there are more similarities than differences. We also discuss the differences in consent prioritization between Asian countries and Europe, with consent often a higher priority in Asian countries. We also touch on the complexities of data localization and its impact on sensitive data and international trade.

We also discuss the challenges of enforcing data privacy laws and the penalties for sending data without government approval, particularly in China. We expressed concern about the impact of strained relationships between countries on cross-border trade involving data transfer. We also delve into AI governance and its impact on privacy risks, highlighting the need for privacy professionals to reassess their data and processes to avoid regulatory issues. We also discuss the future of privacy and technology, emphasizing the importance of privacy and how technology can help protect it.

Overall, the episode highlights the challenges and nuances of privacy laws in Asia, including differences in consent prioritization and data localization. We also discuss the challenges of enforcing data privacy laws and the impact of AI governance on privacy risks. The conversation emphasized the need for continued innovation in privacy and technology to protect privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Nandita Rao Narla, Head of Technical Privacy & Governance, DoorDash. Nandita shares her journey from cybersecurity to privacy engineering, providing valuable insights into the challenges and opportunities in the field. The conversation covers a range of topics, including the difference between cybersecurity and privacy, the importance of data governance, and the complexities of data deletion and AI in relation to privacy.

Debbie and Nandita discuss the challenges companies face with data retention and deletion. We explain that privacy regulations have brought in requirements around data retention, which has become a risk for companies that are accustomed to keeping everything. We also mention the lack of data governance programs and the high cost of implementing end-of-life data controls. Debbie and Nandita agree that this is a difficult and expensive problem for most companies and that privacy teams are being asked to do more with less, and Nandita shares her hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, "The Data Diva" talks to Kurt Roosen, Head of Innovation, Isle of Man, Government Digital Agency. We discuss various topics related to technology, privacy, and ethics. We cover Kurt's career trajectory, his work with the Isle of Man Government Digital Agency, and the challenges of balancing government regulation and innovation while protecting citizens and the environment. We also explore the implications of AI on society, emphasizing the importance of understanding the risks and opportunities of AI and the need for education and critical thinking to avoid over-reliance on technology.

The discussion also touches on online vulnerability and how companies have taken their bad habits from the analog world and moved them into the digital and cloud. We discuss the concept of security through obscurity and how it has impacted companies and share examples of companies that hackers have outmaneuvered despite their strong defenses. We also discuss the challenges of balancing responsible and irresponsible use of AI, citing examples of bias and unintended consequences in Amazon's hiring and X-ray analysis.

Throughout the episode, Kurt and Debbie emphasize the importance of transparency, accountability, and privacy in creating a more just and equitable society. We discuss the potential risks of using data to make inferences about people's beliefs and identities and the need for relevant and ethical protections under GDPR. We also highlight the role of human rights lawyers in defending individuals' rights. Ultimately, the episode provides a thought-provoking discussion about the complex issues of privacy, ethics, and technology and his hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Emma Butler, Creative Privacy (United Kingdom). We discuss a range of topics related to Data Privacy in an upcoming podcast. Emma shares her unique perspective on issues such as regulation, risk appetite, and the challenges small businesses face. We also discuss the importance of plain English and a people-centered approach to data protection, as well as the challenges of working in the field and the different roles of lawyers and non-lawyers. The role of a DPO in advising organizations is also discussed, emphasizing the importance of communicating what the law requires and working with the organization to achieve the right outcome. Emma stresses the importance of understanding the separation between the company and the data protection officer and that the decision and consequences of taking risks and noncompliance fall on the company. We also discuss professionalism in the privacy community on LinkedIn and the growing polarization in society. We also discuss the importance of maturity level and compliance within organizations, emphasizing the need for a realistic and sustainable approach that matches the organization's risk appetite and priorities. We highlight the importance of regulators and lawmakers adopting a people-centered approach to data protection and developing legislation that works for their context and culture. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of a people-centered approach to data protection, the need for critical thinking and reasoned debate in the industry, and Emma’s wish for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Pamela Isom, Chief Executive Officer and Founder of IsAdvice & Consulting LLC, Former Executive Director of Artificial Intelligence and Technology Office at the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE). We discuss Pamela’s extensive experience in various fields, including AI and cybersecurity. We discuss the evolution of AI from expert systems to Generative AI, with Pamela highlighting the need for accountability, bias mitigation, and ethical governance. We also discuss the limitations of AI and the importance of using it as a helper, not a replacement for humans. Pamela shared her experience of being kicked out of a group call because someone thought she was an AI, highlighting the lack of human judgment in relying solely on AI tools.

The conversation then shifted to the risks and challenges associated with AI, including privacy concerns and the potential for AI to make judgments about people. Pamela drew attention to the alarming case of a 14-year-old girl whose photos were used in deepfakes, highlighting the serious risks posed by this technology. We also discuss the challenges of determining the authenticity of AI-generated content and the need for watermarking and content authenticity initiatives. Debbie Reynolds and Pamela Isom delved into the importance of data lineage and provenance in AI decision-making, emphasizing the need to know the origin and journey of data.

We conclude the discussion on the importance of ethics in AI and the challenges of implementing them in government. We express admiration for each other's work and discuss potential opportunities for collaboration in the future. We highlight the importance of networking and building relationships in the field of AI and technology. Pamela also expressed concern about children receiving scam calls that sound like their loved ones and emphasized the need to educate children about cybersecurity and privacy and her hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Vikram Koppikar, Senior Manager, Privacy - South Asia and Metropolitan Asia, Kenvue - Formally Johnson Consumer Health (Mumbai). We discuss challenges faced by multinational corporations in terms of privacy laws and the differences between GDPR and APAC laws. Vikram expresses concern about the contradiction between the express consent and legitimate use provisions in the recent Indian Data Protection Act and suggests that the provision needs to be clarified or made more similar to the legitimate interest concept in GDPR to address these concerns. We discuss fines and penalties for companies that violate privacy regulations, the rights of Indian citizens to sue, and the importance of privacy as a fundamental right.

The conversation touches on data localization requirements, limited data transfer mechanisms, and criminal penalties for data protection infractions in Asia, with a suggestion that monetary penalties on corporates may be more effective than criminal punishment. Debbie and Vikram stress the importance of ethical and legal processing and utilization of personal information for both individual and corporate benefit. They agree that companies must understand that data belongs to people and that privacy is a fundamental right.

Vikram shares his hope for a society that realizes the power of personal information and the benefits it can bring to citizens, and Debbie highlights the importance of empowering people to understand their rights. They also discuss the impact of data protection regulations on companies, emphasizing the need for a roadmap to know what is expected of them when doing business in different regions.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Karen Habercoss, Chief Privacy Officer, University of Chicago. We discuss the challenges of operationalizing privacy and security concepts within organizations and the need for strategic partnerships. Karen shares her unique trajectory in privacy and healthcare compliance, emphasizing the importance of having a diverse skill set and being able to interpret laws and regulations in a relevant way for stakeholders. We discuss the limitations of HIPAA and the need for a more comprehensive approach to privacy risk in healthcare.

The conversation also delved into the complexities of electronic interoperability and marketing in healthcare. They discussed the potential benefits of interoperability, such as improved patient experiences and more seamless connections between healthcare providers, but also acknowledged the risks involved, including the need for transparency and the potential for data breaches. We also explore the challenges of marketing in the healthcare space, particularly in regard to protecting sensitive information and being transparent with patients.

We discuss the importance of transparency and privacy in-app permissions, the need for transparency and patient permission when using identifiable data for research purposes, and the importance of privacy and security working together to mitigate risks for the organization. We also explored the risks and opportunities of AI in healthcare privacy, emphasizing the need for education around the risks and opportunities of AI and the importance of assessing its impact on privacy. Finally, Karen shared her wish for increased transparency in healthcare, believing that transparency is important in helping people make informed decisions for themselves and reducing paternalism in the industry.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Justin Daniels, Corporate Mergers & Acquisitions Counsel and Cybersecurity Expert, Baker Donelson LLP. We discuss the importance of privacy and security awareness in the context of increasing digitization and regulation. Justin explained the new cybersecurity regulation passed by the SEC that requires publicly traded companies to report material data breaches to the SEC within four days and talk about how they manage security risk in their annual reports.

We discuss the challenges companies face in cybersecurity, including the lack of awareness among C Suite executives and the credibility gap between what leaders say in public and allocating resources towards privacy and security. We emphasize the need for education and building general awareness to prevent human error in cyber breaches. We also discussed the double-edged sword of emerging technologies and the need for education and awareness to mitigate cybersecurity risks.

The conversation also touches on the importance of balancing public safety with privacy and cybersecurity concerns, particularly in using digital cameras and facial recognition technology in public spaces and schools. We explore the limitations of current remedies for privacy violations and suggest that more severe consequences, such as criminal penalties, may be necessary to incentivize companies to prioritize privacy and security. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of proactive measures to address cybersecurity threats rather than accepting the status quo of frequent hacks and breaches and his hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Vivek Kumar, Assistant Vice President, Data Protection, EXL Service Holdings, Inc. We discuss various topics related to data privacy and protection. Vivek emphasizes the importance of catering to a broad audience and explaining acronyms. The conversation highlights the challenges faced by both large and small companies in ensuring compliance and building effective risk assessment frameworks. We discuss the importance of accountability and transparency in AI development, the need for regulations to ensure fairness and transparency in AI, and the importance of privacy by design. We also discuss the growing importance of consent management in data protection, the challenges of managing consent life cycles, and the need for communication and awareness across departments to avoid missed touchpoints and ensure compliance with data protection regulations. We also discuss the challenges of implementing privacy compliance within organizations and the need for privacy-enhancing technology to address these challenges. Finally, we discuss the importance of privacy in data governance and the challenges of implementing effective privacy programs, emphasizing the need for a pragmatic and balanced approach to privacy in the face of evolving technologies and regulations and his hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Kimberly Gold, Chief Privacy Officer, Senior Associate General Counsel, and Executive Director, Privacy Law, Genentech (BioTech). We discuss her unique journey into the world of privacy. Starting as a corporate attorney, she gradually developed a keen interest in the intersection of healthcare and technology. The discussion revolves around the intricate realm of privacy within the biotech industry, governed by a complex web of regulations, including HIPAA, state privacy laws, clinical trial regulations, and consumer protection laws. Kimberly underscores the significant impact of artificial intelligence (AI) on healthcare privacy and stresses the importance of its responsible and ethical use. Throughout the episode, Kimberly dispels misconceptions surrounding HIPAA, emphasizing that it is not a comprehensive privacy law and covers only a limited scope of healthcare-related information. State privacy laws, she notes, play a crucial role in filling the gaps left by HIPAA, with a focus on protecting health data not covered by federal law. Kimberly also highlights specific state initiatives, such as the My Health, My Data Act in Washington state, designed to safeguard health privacy, particularly in reproductive healthcare.

The conversation resonates with notable quotes from Kimberly, including her belief in the abundant opportunities for those interested in privacy and technology-related work. She also advocates for a federal privacy law in the United States as a forward-looking step in safeguarding privacy rights. In conclusion, this podcast episode offers valuable insights into the evolving landscape of privacy in biotech, the challenges posed by AI, and the importance of responsible data practices to protect patient privacy and her wish for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Julie Schroeder, General Counsel/Chief Legel Officer, AI/ML Thought Leader. We discuss the misconceptions surrounding AI and the importance of understanding its limitations and risks. We emphasize the need to differentiate between AI and data sets and the importance of understanding the ethics and bias issues related to AI. They also discussed the complexities of data and AI, including the potential for bias and limitations in the data used and the need for a comprehensive and integrated approach to data and AI analysis.

Julie shared her career journey, including becoming a tech founder and General Counsel with expertise in AI and data. She emphasizes the importance of understanding data ownership, Data lineage, and risk management in the healthcare industry and the need to move away from the idea of a company being like Santa's workshop with fragmented roles. It is important to have people like Julie in the future of corporations who can understand and communicate with different groups.

We discuss Julie’s extensive expertise in artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) and engage in a deep exploration of the intricate relationship between law and Data Privacy within the context of AI and ML technologies. Julie begins by dispelling the common misconception that AI is a recent development, tracing its evolution back to the 1950s and 60s. She emphasizes that AI is not a singular technology but rather a category encompassing various subfields, including machine learning and natural language processing. Throughout the episode, the significance of understanding data lineage and ownership is underscored, particularly for companies seeking to leverage AI effectively. Julie also highlights the inherent limitations of AI, emphasizing that it cannot replace human judgment in complex and nuanced tasks. Moreover, she acknowledges the persistent challenge of bias in AI systems, shedding light on the complexities of mitigating bias entirely. The discussion concludes by stressing the importance of comprehensive data collection, as the absence of data can lead to skewed results and erroneous conclusions. This episode offers valuable insights into the legal and ethical dimensions of AI and Data Privacy, encouraging a more nuanced understanding of these technologies in today's evolving landscape and her hopes for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, "The Data Diva" talks to Pádraig O'Leary, Co-founder and CEO of Trust Works. We discuss Data Privacy issues in the enterprise, and the challenges organizations face in Data Privacy and protection, including the need for a more proactive approach to tackling these challenges. We delve into the difficulties of dealing with right-to-be-forgotten requests, including the lack of accurate data mapping and the need for flexibility in finding the right solutions. Additionally, we touch on the challenges of dealing with unstructured data and the need for a risk-based approach to Data Privacy, as well as the importance of considering the limitations of automation in Data Privacy and protection.

We discuss how Trust Works differentiates itself in the crowded privacy space. Padraig explains that the company emphasizes collaboration and automation and that its approach to privacy tool design drives certain choices in how the solution is designed. We also discuss the challenge of AI creep, where companies may unknowingly adopt AI-powered tools without considering the risks associated with them.

We suggest that companies must build a second data map specifically for AI-powered tools and that privacy professionals must be involved in this process. Additionally, they propose the idea of a kill switch functionality to turn off AI capabilities if necessary.

Finally, we discuss the challenges of building diverse and skilled privacy teams. Padraig emphasizes that privacy professionals need to have a unique set of skills that bring together legal, technical, operational, and ethical considerations. Debbie agrees and highlights the benefits of having a well-rounded team of people who understand data and the different angles data challenges take. They both believe that more people from diverse backgrounds and industries must be brought into privacy to build diversity in the field and his wish for the future.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Kim Emiru, Vice President, Privacy, Sony Pictures Entertainment. We discuss the importance of considering privacy first when approaching a job, especially in multinational corporations where privacy laws and cultural expectations vary. We discuss the complexities of hiring for privacy positions and the impact of data collection on minority populations. We stress the importance of diverse viewpoints in improving businesses and the need for more opportunities for people of color in the privacy field. We also discussed the importance of privacy in the workplace and how it can impact career prospects, as well as the rise of Generative AI and the need for sensible policies and guidelines to be put in place to ensure that employees are aware of the risks and benefits of using new technologies.

We discuss the challenges of navigating the complex privacy laws in the US and the potential impact of AI on privacy legislation and the importance of being mindful about sharing information on social media, especially when it comes to children, and the upcoming changes in child privacy laws, including the California Age Appropriate Design Code. We emphasize the importance of building relationships and supporting each other in the workplace, as well as the need for clear definitions and consistency in privacy legislation to protect individuals while making it as easy as possible for businesses to comply and her hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Nereida Parks, a Data Privacy, Information, and Data Governance professional Specializing in AI Ethics and Biometrics. We discuss various topics related to data privacy and data governance, emphasizing the importance of data privacy as an operational issue and not just a legal issue and the need for proper training and processes to prevent internal breaches. We also discuss the challenges and risks associated with AI initiatives, including biases and heightened privacy risks, and the importance of responsibility and ethics in developing and using these technologies. We stress the need for companies to prioritize Data Privacy and invest in proper infrastructure to protect themselves and their customers. We also discuss the importance of good data stewardship and transparency in data collection and deletion and the need to protect people's Data Privacy and prohibit the selling or profiting from people's data. We emphasize the need for consistent policies and laws that encompass all elements of Data Privacy and ethics and the difficulties of navigating different laws in different U.S. states. We also discuss the challenges of data retention and destruction, particularly in relation to Data Privacy issues and the need for proper means to destroy data that no longer has business value. We emphasize the importance of continuous learning and change management in implementing data privacy programs and other new concepts in organizations.