In this episode of The Data Diva Talks Privacy podcast, host Debbie Reynolds welcomes back Kenya Dixon, litigation partner at Nelson Mullins and former Director of White House Information Governance. Their discussion centers on government data privacy, the impact of artificial intelligence on federal records, and the importance of following proper protocols in handling personal information.

Kenya provides insight into the Privacy Act of 1974, which was enacted in response to concerns about government misuse of personal data. She explains how federal agencies are required to follow structured processes when handling personally identifiable information (PII) and creating new systems of record. The conversation delves into the recent controversies surrounding the government's data practices, including concerns over the lack of transparency regarding artificial intelligence and data consolidation efforts. Kenya emphasizes that while the government has a right to upgrade its technology and streamline data processes, the public must be informed through proper documentation and procedural adherence.

The discussion also touches on the role of artificial intelligence in government data management and the potential concerns regarding private entities' access to government-held personal information. Kenya highlights the importance of public engagement and awareness in privacy-related matters, encouraging individuals to stay informed, participate in democratic processes, and understand how their data is used. She also shares her experiences from her time in government, addressing misinformation and misconceptions about data handling in federal agencies.

As privacy issues continue to make headlines, Kenya and Debbie explore the broader implications of data governance, cybersecurity regulations, and the likelihood of federal privacy legislation. They conclude by stressing the significance of state-level privacy laws, the role of AI in shaping the future of data governance, and the ongoing need for transparency in government data practices. This episode offers valuable insights for privacy professionals, policymakers, and anyone interested in the evolving landscape of data privacy.

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Carey Parker, Podcast host and author of "Firewalls Don't Stop Dragons: A Step-by-Step Guide to Computer Security and Privacy for Non-Techies". We discuss the importance of addressing contemporary privacy issues on their respective podcasts. Parker, inspired by the Snowden revelations, shared insights from his career and the motivation behind writing a book on privacy and security. We emphasize the need for clarity in media coverage of significant data breaches.

The conversation highlights the distinction between cybersecurity and privacy, with Reynolds asserting that each should not be viewed as trade-offs. Parker used a political cartoon to illustrate that privacy violations are more severe and irreversible than security failures. We debated the conflicting interests between individuals and corporations regarding data privacy, with Parker expressing frustration over the lack of effective privacy laws in the U.S. and advocating for transparency and education in privacy matters.

We both recognize the importance of individual actions in enhancing privacy and security, advocating for proactive measures like using password managers. We discussed specific privacy concerns, such as the financial troubles of 23andMe and the implications for sensitive DNA information in the event of data breaches. We also examine the privacy risks associated with IoT devices and the inadequacies of current privacy policies, proposing a consumer-driven approach to privacy standards and Caery shares his privacy wish for the future.

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks with Alvaro De Nicholas, CEO of DNA Ventures, about his career in technology and his views on the growing divide in data privacy.

Alvaro shares his journey from telecommunications engineering to leading digital transformation projects at major companies like Accenture, British Telecom, and Lloyds Bank and his connections with NASA. Reflecting on his experiences, he highlights how technology has advanced rapidly while privacy protections have lagged.

A key theme of the discussion revolves around data privacy implications and the increasing divide between those who can afford to protect their privacy and those who cannot. Alvaro raises the thought-provoking question: “Is privacy the privilege of those who can afford it?” He explains how wealthier individuals often have the means to limit their digital footprint while the broader population is subjected to extensive data collection, fueling concerns about fairness, bias, and transparency.

Debbie and Alvaro explore the growing presence of artificial intelligence and how it amplifies privacy risks and potentially entrenches societal inequalities. They discuss the potential dangers of AI models that rely on incomplete or biased data, which could lead to life-altering decisions without individuals’ knowledge or consent.

The conversation also touches on the proliferation of IoT (Internet of Things) devices and the invisible ways they gather data. Alvaro highlights how even everyday items, such as smartwatches and pet trackers, contribute to a vast network of personal data collection. Together, they reflect on the lack of regulation in this space and the urgent need for greater transparency and consumer awareness.

Biometrics emerges as another focal point of the episode. While Alvaro acknowledges the security benefits of biometrics, he expresses deep concern about the irreversible nature of biometric breaches. Debbie echoes these concerns, citing examples where biometric data is being collected for seemingly trivial purposes, such as purchasing beverages at sports stadiums. This raises questions about the balance between convenience and risk.

Alvaro also considers the impact of regulations like GDPR and notes their influence outside Europe. He envisions a future where individuals have greater control over their data, managing it as a personal asset, and hopes for privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Lisa LeVasseur, the founder of Internet Safety Labs, for a compelling discussion about the critical intersection of technology, privacy, and safety. Lisa shares her journey from software development and engineering to founding an organization that pioneers safety standards and independent testing for digital technology. She highlights the shift in focus from privacy to safety, explaining how "safety" encompasses broader harms beyond data privacy, covering issues like deceptive patterns and commercial surveillance.

Lisa delves into the unseen risks associated with apps and websites, describing how user data often flows to numerous third parties without the user's knowledge or consent. She introduces the concept of safety labels developed by Internet Safety Labs, which categorize and score apps based on the level of risk posed by their data-sharing practices. This innovative approach aims to provide greater transparency and accountability in the tech industry.

The conversation explores regulation limitations, with Lisa expressing skepticism about the effectiveness of current data broker laws and the enforcement of privacy regulations. She discusses the hidden ecosystem of identity resolution and customer data platforms, underscoring their role in tracking and correlating personal information across platforms and devices.

Debbie and Lisa also discuss the larger implications of data monetization, advocating for disallowing the personal information market as a radical step toward enhancing consumer safety. They also discuss the need for stronger accountability measures and the importance of raising awareness about the data economy’s impact on individuals.

Lisa concludes by inviting listeners to engage with Internet Safety Labs’ initiatives, including participating in developing safety standards and joining a pilot program for certifying privacy auditors. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the evolving landscape of data privacy, consumer protection, the push for safer technology, and hope for future privacy.

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Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Elizabeth Aguado,  Emerging Technologies, Responsible AI Expert (South America). We discuss  the impact of regulations and frameworks in South America and Latin America, as well as the relevance of discussing underprivileged communities. Aguado raises important concerns about privacy and data protection in the global South, emphasizing the slow progress of authorities in implementing regulations and the high cost of privacy.

Additionally, she addressed the lack of attention on ethical questions related to emerging technologies and the general lack of concern about privacy among people in the global South, emphasizing the importance of igniting conversations and building awareness. We also discussed our joint effort on the Tech Ethics and Public Policy course at Stanford, where my presentation on biometrics was well-received.

Debbie Reynolds, "The Data Diva" talks to Mike Swift, the Chief Global Digital Risk Correspondent at MLex Market Insights. Mike's extensive background in journalism and his focus on the intersection of technology and the law gives him a compelling perspective on the conversation.

Mike discusses his career journey, from reporting on major tech companies like Google and Facebook at The San Jose Mercury News to covering digital risk, privacy, and antitrust issues at MLex. The conversation highlights the increasing overlap between privacy and antitrust. Mike offers insights into significant cases involving Google's ad tech practices and the ongoing debate between Apple and Google over app store control.

The episode's central theme is the evolving view of personal data as a consumer protection issue and a national security concern. Mike reflects on recent legislative efforts to restrict the flow of Americans' data to foreign adversaries, marking a notable shift in privacy discourse at the federal level.

Debbie and Mike explore the growing influence of data brokers, who often operate without direct relationships with consumers while amassing and selling vast amounts of personal data. They discuss the 23andMe breach and raise questions about the adequacy of credit monitoring as a remedy for biometric data leaks.

Artificial intelligence also takes center stage as the two unpack the debate over regulation and innovation. Mike shares insights on California's legislative efforts to regulate powerful AI systems, emphasizing the need to balance technological advancement with consumer protection and privacy safeguards.

The discussion highlights the U.S.'s lack of comprehensive federal privacy legislation, exposing consumers to risks while creating inconsistent protections across states. Mike underscores the need for stronger regulatory guardrails and advocates for recognizing privacy as a fundamental human right.

This episode offers a deep dive into the intersection of technology, law, and privacy. Mike provides valuable insights on the current and future landscape of data governance and shares his hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Luke Mulks, Vice President of Business Operations at Brave Software and host of the Brave Technologist podcast.

Luke shares his unique journey from working in ad tech to joining Brave Software, where he now champions a privacy-first approach to browsing and online advertising. The conversation explores the profound issues in the ad tech ecosystem, the challenges of data over-collection, and the opportunities for innovation in building user-respecting solutions.

Luke discusses the evolution of ad targeting from domain-specific ads to intrusive audience tracking across the web, underscoring how these methods have fueled surveillance capitalism. He explains how Brave Software takes a fundamentally different approach by respecting user privacy as a default setting while creating viable business models. By leveraging privacy-preserving technologies, Brave has proven that companies can monetize digital ecosystems without compromising user trust.

Debbie and Luke address global privacy controls (GPC) and the broader regulatory landscape, highlighting its limitations and the challenges of relying on companies to act in good faith. Luke emphasizes that privacy solutions must be built into the technology—“an architectural and foundational approach”—rather than depending on users to opt into protections or companies to self-regulate. They also discuss the interplay between privacy and competition, exploring how dominant tech companies leverage monopolistic control over browsers, operating systems, and ad ecosystems to stifle innovation and consumer choice.

The episode cexplores concerns, including cashless societies, financial privacy, and AI-powered content creation. Luke explains the importance of digital tools that preserve the anonymity of cash in a digital environment, warn and warnsst the risks of hyper-centralized financial systems. He also reflects on how AI disrupts privacy, advertising, and content integrity, underscoring the need for better tooling and ethical governance to address emerging challenges.

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Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Matthew Rosenquist, Mercury Risk's Chief Information Security Officer (CISO), cybersecurity strategist, and LinkedIn Top Voice. With over 35 years of experience, Matthew shares his dynamic career journey, which started with internal investigations, building Intel’s first Security Operations Center, and leading crisis response teams. His extensive background includes advising governments, businesses, and academia on emerging threats and cybersecurity best practices.

Matthew highlights the critical evolution of cybersecurity from a “nice-to-have” to a mission-critical business necessity while discussing how rising consumer and regulatory expectations are reshaping the cybersecurity landscape. He explains the growing gap between mounting security demands and available resources, emphasizing that cybersecurity leaders must demonstrate value beyond risk prevention. Matthew advocates for evolving cybersecurity’s role from compliance-focused operations to strategic business enablers that deliver competitive advantages and even revenue opportunities.


The conversation explores the interconnectedness of privacy and cybersecurity, framing both as foundational to digital trust. Matthew emphasizes that privacy failures and cybersecurity breaches undermine trust with customers, regulators, and business partners, making collaboration between cybersecurity and privacy professionals essential. He also illuminates the importance of proactivity in cybersecurity, contrasting it with the reactive “firefighting” mindset often seen in organizations.


Matthew goes into the threat of insider risks, distinguishing between malicious insiders and non-malicious actors who unintentionally create vulnerabilities. Drawing from his experience, he underscores the need for strong leadership, clear policies, and an organizational culture where employees feel empowered to report issues without fear. Looking to the future, he stresses the importance of having cybersecurity expertise on boards of directors, enabling organizations to navigate rising risks and better align cybersecurity initiatives with business objectives.
As the discussion concludes, Matthew shares his wish for the cybersecurity industry: improved communication, collaboration, and leadership. He calls for greater strategic thinking, proactive risk management, and a collective effort to stay ahead of evolving threats in an increasingly complex digital world. He also highlights his hope for Cybersecurity and Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva” talks to Michelle Trong Perrin-Steinberg, SAP's Chief Legal Counsel for Export Controls and Sanctions for North and South America. Michelle shares her inspiring and unique career journey, including roles in government contracting, aerospace and defense, higher education, law firms, and consulting, before transitioning to her current tech industry role. Her wealth of experience gives her a unique perspective on the intersection of export controls, privacy, and emerging technologies.

Debbie and Michelle explore the evolving nature of export controls, particularly in the digital age, where data flows and cross-border transfers have added new layers of complexity. Michelle explains how export controls, once focused largely on physical goods, now encompass digital data, renderings, and server-to-server flows. She highlights the challenges businesses face in complying with ever-changing geopolitical regulations, especially with the rise of AI and emerging technologies. The conversation also touches on the direct connection between export controls and privacy, such as the recent U.S. executive order prohibiting data brokers from transferring sensitive American data to countries of concern.

Michelle emphasizes the need for clear regulations, global collaboration, and practical safeguards to help companies comply while protecting data privacy. She discusses the parallels between export controls and privacy laws, including the importance of tracking data lineage, securing consent for sensitive information, and implementing proper access controls. As technology evolves rapidly, Michelle stresses the importance of creating robust systems to safeguard data while remaining adaptable to constant changes and shares her hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Additionally, Michelle introduces her new book, Kindly Michelle, which shares her journey, lessons learned, and insights for young professionals navigating their careers. She encourages listeners to embrace their authentic selves, develop a strong personal brand, and prioritize kindness and authenticity when building professional connections.

Debbie Reynolds, “The Data Diva,” talks to Robert Bateman, Owner of KnowData Ltd in the United Kingdom, for an in-depth discussion on the evolving complexities of data privacy regulations worldwide. Robert begins by sharing his privacy journey, starting during his law studies when he began analyzing the GDPR and CCPA. His experience writing extensively about these topics laid the foundation for his role as a leading voice in the privacy community.

The conversation highlights the unique challenges of the U.S. privacy landscape, where fragmented state laws and federal legislative debates create an unpredictable regulatory environment. Robert and Debbie also tackle the intricacies of international data transfers, particularly the tension between the EU and the U.S., as seen in the Uber fine controversy. They explore the confusing regulatory landscape caused by conflicting interpretations of data transfer mechanisms and the far-reaching implications for businesses.

Additionally, the discussion goes into the influence of global standards organizations such as IEEE, ISO, and NIST on shaping privacy and safety frameworks. Robert and Debbie discuss how emerging technologies like AI further complicate privacy matters and stress the importance of responsible AI decision-making, emphasizing the need to retain human oversight in critical processes.

Looking toward the future, Robert advocates for formally recognizing privacy as a fundamental human right globally. He highlights the progress as businesses increasingly take privacy compliance seriously, even amidst the challenges. Debbie adds her insights on the evolving regulatory landscape, predicting heightened activity and complexity in privacy law as new technologies and regulations emerge. Robert shares his hope for Data Privacy in the future.

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Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks Thomas Morrow, Ex NASA, Attorney, Technology Expert.  Debbie and Thomas discuss the critical intersection of data privacy, artificial intelligence (AI), and emerging technologies. Thomas shares his fascinating journey from working on aerospace innovations at Boeing to contributing to NASA’s International Space Station program, where he navigated secure communications and data privacy challenges. This experience laid the groundwork for his deep understanding of how technological advancements and privacy protections must coexist.

Thomas explains how NASA’s approach to astronaut data—disclosing what data is collected, how it is used, and potential risks—provides a model for how data privacy could work in a consumer context. He and Debbie explore how transparency, ethics, and consent can build trust in a data-driven world. The conversation touches on the double-edged nature of technology, particularly AI, which has the power to drive significant innovation, such as better weather prediction and disaster preparedness, but also poses risks like deepfakes, misuse of personal data, and privacy erosion.

The discussion highlights pressing issues such as the need for global standards in data protection, AI ethics, and authentication processes to verify the authenticity of communications. Thomas emphasizes balancing innovation with accountability, stressing that regulation is essential to ensure technology serves society positively rather than being exploited for unethical gains. He and Debbie also share their thoughts on building digital trust through novel personal authentication systems, drawing parallels to encryption and hashing methods to secure identity and communications in an increasingly digital world.

Thomas advocates for a collaborative, international approach to regulation and ethical AI development. He underscores the need to think long-term, projecting into the future to address challenges before they become unmanageable. Forward-looking conferences like Ecosystem 2030 champion this mindset, and Thomas shares his hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Flo Nicolas, J.D., Chief Impact and Community Engagement Officer, ARMI - ReGen Valley Tech Hub. We discuss shared insights about her career transition from law to technology. Flo discusses her challenges in navigating government contracts and emphasizes the importance of mentorship in her professional growth. The conversation touches on the mental health impacts of corporate life and the necessity of taking risks and learning from failures, highlighting the value of community engagement and personal branding in fostering professional development.

The discussion also addresses pressing data privacy issues and the implications of emerging technologies, particularly for children. Flo expressed her concerns about the dangers of deepfake technology, sharing a cautionary tale that underscored the need for early education on online safety. We acknowledge the alarming trend of diminishing privacy rights in the face of advancing technology, with Flo noting that many individuals are desensitized to privacy notifications. We agreed on the importance of simplifying privacy information to empower users, especially diverse groups like students and small businesses, to better navigate complex privacy settings.

Additionally, we examine the dual nature of artificial intelligence, recognizing its benefits while addressing significant risks such as algorithmic bias and the need for human oversight in AI decision-making. We raise concerns about the effectiveness of current regulations and the necessity for companies to comply with ethical guidelines. The conversation concluded with Flo advocating for increased investment in critical technologies, emphasizing the importance of oversight to mitigate risks like data breaches. She also mentioned her new role, which involves developing a data analytics dashboard, highlighting the need for a supportive team to assist in this endeavor and her hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, "The Data Diva" talks to Jim Amos, a Human-First Technologist. We discuss the challenges and implications of AI, privacy, and surveillance, delving into critical concerns about how companies adopt AI technologies and the risks they introduce.

Jim shares his skepticism about the hype surrounding generative AI, emphasizing that many companies overlook the importance of solid data management systems before implementing these technologies. He argues that while AI holds potential, the exaggerated promises of artificial general intelligence (AGI) and other advancements often distract from the real issues. We also discuss the hidden human labor behind AI systems and the environmental and ethical costs associated with technology.

The conversation touches on broader societal issues, such as the growing surveillance state, the exploitation of human data, and the power imbalance between tech billionaires and the general public. We emphasize the need for more thoughtful, critical discussions around AI's role in shaping the future and advocate for a multidisciplinary approach to address the ethical and privacy concerns surrounding emerging technologies.

This insightful episode provides a nuanced perspective on the current state of AI and its impact on society, encouraging listeners to question tech leaders' promises and consider the broader implications of these innovations and his hope for AI and  Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Jennifer Pierce, PhD, Founder of Singular XQ, AI and Performance Anthropology. We discuss the evolution of online community building with a shift noted from personal blogs and small communities to the current reliance on big platforms and algorithms. Concerns are raised about the lack of intentional community building and the influence of algorithms on digital spaces. We stress the importance of finding genuine connections and understanding the impact of algorithm-driven content. We also highlight the lack of transparency and understanding in AI decision-making, pointing out the complexity and ambiguity of terms like "autonomous" and "semi-autonomous." Pierce expresses concern about the theatricality in technology demonstrations and the need for honesty and transparency to build investor confidence. Her nonprofit's mission to address human problems in digital transformation and AI products is passionately discussed, with an emphasis on the societal and cultural understanding of technology. We explore misconceptions and the need for clarity and specificity in discussing AI technologies.

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Emerald De Leeuw-Goggin, Global Head of AI Governance & Privacy and Women in AI Governance Co-founder. We discuss the intersection of privacy, technology, and the representation of women in AI governance. Emerald shares her background, detailing her transition from the Netherlands to Ireland and her early interest in privacy tech, which led to the founding of Women in AI Governance. This organization aims to address the lack of diversity in AI leadership, empowering local leaders to foster inclusivity and representation in the field.

The conversation also addresses pressing concerns regarding the implications of AI technologies, such as deepfakes, on mental health and privacy. Both speakers highlight the ethical considerations necessary in AI applications, particularly in advertising, to mitigate harmful effects. We discuss the EU AI Act and its parallels to the GDPR, stressing the need for clear guidelines and the importance of organizations articulating their values to ensure ethical practices. The meeting concludes with a shared commitment to future collaboration and a mutual appreciation for the insights exchanged, underscoring the significance of responsible AI development alongside privacy considerations and her hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Bill Buchanan, Professor of Applied Cryptography at Edinburgh Napier University (Scotland). Professor Buchanan begins by sharing his career journey, highlighting his transition from electrical engineering to becoming a prominent figure in cryptography and cybersecurity. The conversation covers key topics, including the distinction between symmetric key encryption and public key encryption, where Buchanan explains how these methods are used to secure communications. He also dives into the importance of digital signatures for verifying data authenticity and maintaining data integrity, emphasizing their role in making the internet more trustworthy. The discussion expands into advanced cryptographic techniques like hashing functions, zero-knowledge proofs, and homomorphic encryption, which allow encrypted data to be processed securely without decryption. Buchanan sheds light on the critical challenge of key management in preventing data breaches, especially in cloud environments, and introduces listeners to post-quantum cryptography, which aims to protect against the emerging threat of quantum computers. The episode also touches on artificial intelligence’s influence on cryptography, where AI’s ability to exploit side channels and reverse-engineer code presents new challenges. Buchanan addresses the ongoing debate surrounding government surveillance and backdoors in encryption, warning of the risks associated with weakening encryption standards. He concludes with his vision for the future of data privacy, advocating for a more citizen-focused approach that grants individuals greater control over their data, especially as AI and large tech companies continue to reshape the digital landscape. This episode offers a deep dive into the evolving world of cryptography, data privacy, and the future of security in a rapidly advancing technological era and his hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, "The Data Diva" talks to Dr. Genevieve Bartuski, Founder and CEO of Bartuski Consulting, Data Privacy, Cyberpsychology and AI Governance. We discuss Genevieve's professional background and transition to becoming a data privacy and cybersecurity consultant. We also explore the intersection of technology and human behavior, emphasizing online privacy's ethical considerations and societal implications. The conversation underscores the complex nature of cyberpsychology and its multifaceted influence on people's lives.

We explore the potential privacy harms, biases, and lack of transparency in decision-making processes associated with artificial intelligence (AI). We highlight the impact of AI on medical and psychological studies, emphasizing the potential health disparities and biases in research and the need for more inclusive and transparent practices in AI development and implementation. We also discuss the limitations of traditional intelligence and personality assessments and the need for a more holistic approach that considers an individual's environment and background.

The discussion also touches on privacy and data concerns, including deep fakes, age verification for children online, and the growing collection of personal data. We express skepticism about the necessity and security of providing personal information and the need for clearer, more transparent policies, particularly written in plain language, to make it easier for consumers to understand. Additionally, we highlight the importance of making policies and terms of service more straightforward and accessible to consumers and the need for greater transparency in data handling.

We also discuss the EU AI Act, its potential international influence, and the risks of unauthorized AI use, including exposing personal and confidential information in public models. We emphasize the need for low-tech security measures and a culture of psychological safety to effectively address privacy breaches. Additionally, we express our wishes for minimizing data collection, eliminating scammers, and establishing global regulations to address privacy concerns, highlighting the potential role of international bodies like the Hague or the UN in setting guidelines for privacy and her hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds “The Data Diva” talks to Paul Starrett, Co-Founder, PrivacyLabs, Founder, Starrett Law ( AI-Governance Technology, Law, Cyber Risk). We discuss an overview of his career journey, highlighting his transition from security and technology to law and specialization in AI and data science. Debbie Reynolds discusses the legal industry's approach to technology, prompting Paul to share his perspective on the industry's slow adoption of technology and the need for improved data literacy. We also discuss the historical context of technology and AI adoption, reflecting on the transition from manual to digital processes and the growing reliance on technology in the workplace.

We explore the multifaceted aspects of governance in AI adoption, emphasizing the importance of GRC and the need to understand the underlying reasons for governance practices. We also explore the complexities of addressing bias in AI applications, highlighting the risks associated with biased data and the challenges of ensuring fair and unbiased outcomes. Furthermore, we discuss the surprising challenges companies face with data and AI, particularly in navigating the hype cycle and understanding the proper use of AI as an enabler for specific tasks.

We engage in a conversation about the proper use of technology, highlighting the importance of understanding its functionality to mitigate potential risks and his hope for Data Privacy in the future.

Debbie Reynolds, "The Data Diva", talks to Nigel Scott, Director, X-Digital Pty Limited, Digital Strategy, Project Management & Marketing (Australia). We discuss his career journey and share his insights on artificial intelligence (AI), particularly Generative AI. He emphasizes the need for dedicated individuals to truly excel in utilizing this technology and questions the widespread appeal of generative AI. Nigel and Debbie discuss the implications of Generative AI for data systems and organizational productivity, emphasizing the importance of teaching people how to think and ask complex questions when using generative AI.

The conversation also goes into the impact of privacy on data in the web era, prompting contemplation about the future implications of these interconnected elements. Nigel emphasizes the importance of finding a lazy way to come to a solution to ensure high user satisfaction and adoption in user experience design. Debbie initiates a discussion about data deletion and the complexities of privacy laws, particularly referencing the "right to be forgotten" in Europe. The conversation concludes with excitement for the future possibilities and the anticipation of the episode's release.

Nigel and Debbie discuss the future of technology and trust, particularly focusing on the role of AI in negotiating trust between parties. Nigel emphasizes the importance of trust over privacy and highlights the potential for AI to foster an environment of trust in the digital space. They also touch upon the challenges regulators face in understanding the complexities of technology, the need for a shift in mindset to embrace the potential of AI for the benefit of humanity, and his hope for Data Privacy in the future.